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Location:

Kingsbury,TX,USA

Member Since:

Jan 10, 2011

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Local Elite

Running Accomplishments:

 

Some day I will not be able to do this...today is not that day!

Started Running (6/1/10) @ 50 Yrs Old

  • 5K:
    • 22:26 (7:14 pace) McAllister Park 8/14/10
    • 22:24 San Marcos (7:13 pace) 10/19/10
    • 21:09 San Marcos (6:49 pace) 11/20/10
    • 20:19 San Marcos-Faith Run (6:33 pace) 5/26/12
    • 20:06 Fentress (6:26 pace) 10/20/12
    • *19:21 Gruene (6:20 pace) 11/22/12 (*Short Course)
    • 19:42 San Marcos-Faith Run (6:21 pace) 5/25/13
    • 19:42 San Marcos-Faith Run (6:21 pace) 5/24/14 (Not a Typo, exactly same time as last year)
    • 21:38 New Braunfels Orange Leaf (6:58 pace) 7/19/14
    • 19:33 Gruene Turkey Trot (6:18 pace) 11/27/14
    • 19:43 Kyle-For the Love of Go (6:27 pace) 2/14/15
  • 5 Miles:

    • 34:03 (6:48 pace) Hillsboro, Ill 7/4/11
  • 10Ks:
    • 43:24 (7:00 pace) Gatesville, Tx 6/4/11
  • Half Marathons:
    • 1:42:16 (7:48 pace) Austin Livestrong  2/20/11
    • 1:36:23 (7:21 pace) Moe's Better Half  3/6/11
    • 1:35:55 (7:19 pace) Chosen Half Marathon for Adoption 10/29/11
    • 1:30:10 (6:53 pace) Austin 3M 1/2/12
    • 1:43:13 (7:54 pace) Orange Leaf  7/14/12
    • 1:33:44 (7:08 pace) Chosen Half Marathon for Adoption 10/27/12
    • 1:32:23 (7:03 pace) Austin 3M 1/13/13
    • 1:35:16 (7:16 pace) Marathon for Adoption 10/26/13 (Ran off-course .3 miles)
    • 1:36:48 (7:23 pace) SA Rock-N-Roll 11/17/13
    • 1:37:06 (7:25 pace) Chosen Half Marathon for Adoption 10/25/14
    • 2:00:28 (9:11 pace) Long Beach Half Marathon (Paced Callie) 10/11/15
    • 1:39:29 (7:35 pace) Marathon for Adoption 11/21/15
    • 1:34:06 (7:11 pace) Marathon for Adoption 11/19/16
    • 1:37:43 (7:37 pace) Marathon for Adoption 11/18/17
    • 1:36:30 (7:22 pace) Marathon for Adoption 11/17/18
    • 1:45:10 (8:01 Paced Callie) Surf City Half Marathon 2/2/20
  • Marathons:
    • 3:38:09 (8:19 pace) Oklahoma City Marathon 5/1/11
    • 3:30:16 (8:01 pace) Ft. Worth Cowtown 2/26/12
    • 3:30:53 (8:03 pace) Oklahoma City Marathon 4/29/12 
    • 0:00:00 (DNF) Ft Worth Cowtown Marathon 2/24/13 (Ran off-course)
    • 3:22:56 (7:44 pace) Temple Army Marathon BQ 4/21/13
    • 3:27:24 (7:55 pace) Boston Marathon BQ  4/21/14 
    • 3:18:40 (7:35 pace) CIM Marathon BQ 12/7/14
    • 3:33:07 (8:08 pace) San Antonio R&R Marathon BQ 12/7/16
    • 3:25:32 (7:51pace) The Woodlands Marathon BQ 3/3/18
    • 3:26:17 (7:52 pace) The Woodlands Marathon BQ 3/2/19
  • Triathlons:
  • (1:12:23) Martindale (Sprint) Tri For Old Glory 7/1/12
  • Ragnar Relay:
  • (28:24:24) SoCal Ragnar 4/6-7/18 

Short-Term Running Goals:

  • Running Boston Marathon with Callie 2020 ...!!!
  • Break 19:00 in the 5K
  • Break 1:28 in Half Marathon
  • Hit 3:16:00 in the Marathon

Upcoming Races: 

  • Boston with Callie...!!! (my daughter)

Long-Term Running Goals:

  • Win 1st in the World Series Team Roping Finals Dec. 2020
  • Run Boston with Callie, My Daughter
  • Run Sub-18:00 5K (Ouch)
  • Run Sub- 3:10 Marathon  Run 3:16 Marathon
  • Compete in a Full Iron Man (Not sure since my two major bike accidents)

Personal:

Married, two kids  Kirby (Baylor University, Married not a a Runner), Callie  (TCU University, Married and Runner).

My main sport is Team Roping, I've been doing that all my life. 

I started running in the spring of 2010.

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I spent a few minutes researching the effect of temperature, humidity and dew point yesterday. I've been curious about the effects of these three thing but never really realized how they worked together to make it so unpleasant to run sometimes. I found this article that describes the effects fairly simply and accurately. 

http://througharunninglens.blogspot.com/2012/07/dew-point-and-runners-what-is-it-and.html 

I feel like I now understand why our central Texas weather is so uncomfortable to run in at times. I am going to start tracking Dew Point so I might hopefully understand why some training runs seem so much harder than others. I might be able to adjust my training based on the findings.

A good example of the Dew Point effects was today's run. The Dew Point just happened to be 72. I suspect this is going to be a common reading for most of my morning runs. As you can see from the chart below (taken from the above article) you can "expect pace to suffer greatly".  Not that this information changes anything but at least it can give me a little peace of mind that I've just not lost everything and should throw in the towel! 


 Update:

I went and looked at the Temperature, Humidity and Dew point of several locations across the country to compare to this mornings run. Here they are:

Billing 56 degrees, 66% Humidity, Dew Point 45

Ammon 57 degrees, 77% Humidity, Dew Point 50

Lakewood 51 degrees, 94% Humidity, Dew Point 50

Cypress 82 degrees, 88% humidity, Dew Point 78 (Sorry Flat!)

Tacoma 55 degrees, 89% Humidity, Dew Point 52

Preston 60 degrees, 64% Humidity, Dew Point 48

Ohio 68 degrees, 64% humidity, Dew Point 55

OK City 72 degrees 88% humidity, Dew Point 68 (but raining and flash flood conditions) 

Proverbs 18:15 

An intelligent heart acquires knowledge, and the ear of the wise seeks knowledge.

Oh, I forgot to talk about my run. I ran my small loop + a little to complete 7 miles. Each mile I would speed up to a 5:30 pace (about .10 mile) twice during the mile then slow back down and catch my breath and cool down. Overall average Pace was 8:23.

Saucony Cortana (Green) Miles: 7.00
Comments
From flatlander on Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 09:19:48 from 76.31.9.237

This is the first thing I have ever won on this blog.

From I Just Run on Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 09:22:10 from 67.79.11.242

Congratulations Flat, I'll send you your sweat band!

From Tom K on Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 09:43:53 from 174.58.4.250

Ahem...

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

From I Just Run on Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 14:46:52 from 67.79.11.242

Tom K,

Please send $ 9.95 to me for your first month's subscription.

(LOL...I'm always thinking some of the elite runners are reading my blog and thinking, "wow, what at ^$#@* &^%%". Thanks for humoring me and actually reading my blog and being my friend!

From derhammer on Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 15:14:13 from 64.245.52.2

Very interesting - thanks for posting this. I think temperature matters, too, when it gets hot enough. My lunchtime run in 90+ degrees and full sun was equally as bad as my morning run in the dark at 80 degrees and 90% humidity. At least my shorts were just as soaked. :-)

From I Just Run on Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 15:24:25 from 67.79.11.242

DH,

Ah yes...but if you look at the Dew Point it was still 70 at noon. I bet if it had been 50 you would have been much more comfortable as the sweat would have evaporated and the air would not have been so saturated. As the article says the humidity is not a tell-tell sign because it can be very high but not near holding all the water it can. Saturation is the key to the misery!

From rAtTLeTrAp on Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 15:34:18 from 24.19.80.36

OK, OK, I've got nothin' to whine about now :)

From I Just Run on Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 16:07:48 from 67.79.11.242

RT,

Whine away...I do all the time! :-) Have a great weekend!

From Matt Schreiber on Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 18:53:12 from 66.87.72.13

Your comment the other day about DP has had me thinking about this stuff. Thanks for sharing the article. I'm going to be paying attention to the dew point more now... See if there's a noticeable difference between high RH and the dew point.

From flatlander on Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 11:15:48 from 76.31.9.237

I've been thinking about this way too much. I don't understand exactly why 100% RH at 65F should feel different than 100% RH at 75F -- in both cases, by definition, you are at the dew point, so in theory there is no evaporation off of your skin. But they definitely feel different, of course. I think it is possible that our bodies have at least one other cooling system other than skin evaporation, not sure what it is but it's why we can adapt to running in these conditions. Maybe not totally compensating for the stifling heat, but certainly doing a lot better than someone who comes in and tries to run in it unprepared. That might also be why it helps condtioning to run in the sunlight, when RH is lower but DP is the same -- there is a solar effect on the skin as well as absolute temperature that you are training against, and adapting to it as well with whatever that other cooling system is. Right now, for instance, temps have gone up 10 degrees and RH here in Cypress has dropped about 30% from this morning but DP is almost the same. But if I went back out, despite getting some evaporation off of my skin I would still be more uncomfortable than this morning because of the sunlight and because of the higher temperature; don't know exactly why but that has been my experience this summer. On the other hand, despite being uncomfortable, the times I have gone back out this summer in the mid-afternoon sun I have generally ran just as well in the morning, maybe even better, despite being fatigued -- I assumed it was because of body rhythms but maybe it's also attributable to having an evaporative effect going because of the gap between DP and absolute temperature?

From Matt Schreiber on Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 11:40:35 from 66.87.6.219

I've been thinking about this too much, too... I raced this morning in 44 degree temp with dew point of 43. RH was ~96%? It felt absolutely amazing. Where i was worried this morning (and confused) was when i saw the gap between the temp and dew point. The few point feel quite nicely on the chart.

Flatlander - Your second sentence sums up my confusion.. The dew point theory does make more sense though.

From I Just Run on Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 11:57:16 from 166.147.72.15

Matt

Tthis seems to prove the point.

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From Dave S on Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 13:30:56 from 63.248.20.148

My 48 DP didn't even make the chart. I guess I'll have to run in the afternoon if I want to whine.

From Tom K on Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 16:07:11 from 71.203.20.181

I just hope this doesn't turn into an excuse for me, as I live in the 75+ Dew Point world. The Utah folks don't complain about hills or snow often, I'll try not to complain about heat, humidity, or (now), dew point.

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